tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8780248647362852089.post93909380429814452..comments2023-10-31T03:42:57.725-07:00Comments on Win The Fields: Get in the Back of the Line, Sucker!...or Why Refs are a Bad IdeaLouhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13365249342438107816noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8780248647362852089.post-14801182800940004382011-02-18T10:35:18.932-08:002011-02-18T10:35:18.932-08:00For one, right now getting a TMF seems like a very...For one, right now getting a TMF seems like a very big deal for the players. People don't really understand it, that you can get a TMF for a hard mark, even if you uncontest the foul. I found that it changes games and mindset, people start worrying about the sideline, not fouling on the mark, etc. The warnings are already built into the system, thus TMF's should be given out liberally for the first offense. This doesn't "take the game out of the players hands" because no penalty is accessed for the first two actions. The problem is that it seems to be different from observer to observer. Any blatant disregard for the rules should be a TMF.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8780248647362852089.post-59418497709875129302011-02-16T14:35:59.930-08:002011-02-16T14:35:59.930-08:00great post, lou. i think your articulation of ult...great post, lou. i think your articulation of ultimate moving to the back of the sports line is the most succinct and pragmatic argument for why self-officiation should remain an integral part of the game. i believe both golf and tennis (at lower levels) are self-officiated but those are both individual sports and in a completely different category from ultimate.FJRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08415502639804775422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8780248647362852089.post-9939668501478589562011-02-13T05:59:31.543-08:002011-02-13T05:59:31.543-08:00@nolookscoober I don't have stats beyond the ...@nolookscoober I don't have stats beyond the same experiences Ben and Tyler shared in their comments. This is obviously unscientific for 900 different reasons, but the consistency and uniformity of parent's comments tells us something. I was expecting USAU to implement some observing changes this year and I saw from your blog that it happened at QCTU. What was the effect on at the play and game level? At the tournament level?<br /><br />@Fish (Ben and Tyler) Thanks for chiming it. That's really cool about the Colombian government; we'll chalk it up as another awesome thing I missed by moving.<br /><br />LouLouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13365249342438107816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8780248647362852089.post-74536190321690054632011-02-10T08:41:06.363-08:002011-02-10T08:41:06.363-08:002 things.
1- I've found the same from parents...2 things.<br /><br />1- I've found the same from parents whose kids I've coached. They have LOVED spirit of the game, and have commented on its marked distinction from the other sports their kids play-- they see a difference in their child's attitude and participation from soccer to ultimate, noting more camaraderie, respect, and the like.<br /><br />2- The Colombian Government is really pushing ultimate's growth in schools thoughout their country. They helped sponsor Torneo Eterna Primavera, an incredible 2 week program of youth clinics, ultimate seminars, and culminating in an international tournament. The COlombian Government (along with some other sponsors) even paid to fly down Seattle's Sockeye and Riot and Vancouver's Furious George and Traffic for as much as the players were able to participate in, for some including the full two weeks. It was an unbelievable trip, and was amazing to see such a push for the game on an institutional level. <br /><br />This is all because the Colombian gov't sees SoTG as a method to teach core principles of respect, honesty, mediation and non-violent dispute resolution in a country whose youth are faced with violence regularly. <br /><br />Losing SoTG would be a major, major loss to the sport, and this type of sponsorship and support would never happen.<br /><br />Tyler<br />SockeyeTylerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08518211407281658054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8780248647362852089.post-21762836540904098762011-02-10T08:06:32.606-08:002011-02-10T08:06:32.606-08:00I really wish we could quantify now often parents ...I really wish we could quantify now often parents cite SotG as one of their favorite parts of the sport. <br /><br />At every single youth practice I coach or tournament I attend this is the #1 comment I hear from parents. I probably hear this more than every other 'about the game' parent comment combined. Not that parent happiness is the benchmark that should be used for deciding sporting issues, but in this case I think it is interesting, at the least.<br /><br />So I wish I had numbers...blhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16929136223325953942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8780248647362852089.post-89574408089492917522011-02-10T05:22:30.495-08:002011-02-10T05:22:30.495-08:00Our sport is growing at a breakneck pace as you sa...Our sport is growing at a breakneck pace as you say. However, and maybe I've missed them, do you have statistics showing, that at the youth level, Parents love SOTG? I do think there is merit to considering, if it isn't broke, don't fix it attitude towards getting the sport to grow. There are changes I would like to see, more active observing, quicker rulings, and as you said TMF's for every bad call. <br /><br />BJ- NoLookScooberAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com